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Up as You Win Betting Systems

9 June 2024

By Jerry Stickman

One of a series of articles about why betting systems cannot work.

One of the most common questions I receive from readers is what do I think about this or that betting system. Can the reader win with it?

Each betting system sounds reasonable (well, most of them anyway). The logic presented seems to make sense.

I every case, however, there is something left out of the string of logic that is used to promote the betting system.

This article examines up as you win betting systems.

As the name states, up as you win betting means the gambler will increase the bet as bets win.
• Some systems call for raising the bet one unit after each win.
• Some call for doubling the bet with each win.
• Some call for using other patterns to raise bets.
• Some call for staying at the same level of betting for several bets before increasing the bet.

Raising the bet one unit after each win is self-explanatory.
• Start with a one-unit bet.
• If you win, raise the next bet one unit.
• Continue raising the bet one unit on each win until you lose.
• Then start the sequence from the beginning.

Doubling the bet with each win is also self-explanatory.
• Start with a one-unit bet.
• On a win double the previous bet.
• Continue until a loss.
• Then start over with a one-unit bet.

There are several strategies calling for various betting size sequences to use when losing. This is one of them.
• Raise the bet one-half of the win.
• Continue raising one-half of the win until a loss.
• Start over with a one-unit bet.

One example of staying at the same level for more than one win before raising the bet:
• Start with a one-unit bet.
• Stay at this level for three wins.
• Raise the bet one unit for three more wins.
• Continue with this pattern until a loss.
• Start over with a one-unit bet.

Proponents of the up as you win betting progressions feel there are streaks in gambling (as do proponents of up as you lose betting systems). These betting systems are trying to “make hay while the sun shines.” That is, bet into the winning streaks. Take advantage of them when they occur. They feel you cannot be a big winner by always betting the minimum during winning streaks.

These people are right.
• There are streaks in gambling.
• Gamblers cannot make money betting minimum during win streaks.

What they possibly don’t know and definitely don’t say is gamblers have no idea when streaks (winning or losing) are going to begin or end. With a fair coin toss having heads winning and tails losing:
• Betting up as you win would work if winning streaks were long and losing streaks were short.
• Betting up with a loss would work with work with losing streaks longer than winning streaks.
• Both betting systems (up as you win or up as you lose) will LOSE when the coin alternates heads and tails every other flip.

There are streaks in gambling. Gamblers (actually nobody) knows when streaks are going to start or end. In the long run, gamblers will lose as the house edge dictates. No betting system can overcome the mathematical house edge – period.

As always, may all your wins be swift and large, and your losses be slow and small.

Jerry “Stickman”

Jerry “Stickman” is an expert in craps, blackjack and video poker and advantage slot machine play. He is a regular contributor to top gaming magazines and 888casino.com. He authored the video poker section of Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo, and Pai Gow Poker! You can contact Jerry “Stickman” at stickmanjerryg@gmail.com
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Jerry Stickman
Jerry “Stickman” is an expert in craps, blackjack and video poker and advantage slot machine play. He is a regular contributor to top gaming magazines. He authored the video poker section of Everything Casino Poker: Get the Edge at Video Poker, Texas Hold'em, Omaha Hi-Lo, and Pai Gow Poker! You can contact Jerry "Stickman" at stickmanjerryg@gmail.com.

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